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14th May 2025

When the Vision Doesn’t Match Reality: Michael Isernio on Startup Missteps and Sales Leadership Lessons

Welcome to the first episode of Why Did It Fail?, a fresh look on Redefining Outbound! In this episode, Cognism’s Shivan sits down with Narrative AI founder Michael Isernio to unpack a failed VP of Sales stint, exploring why outbound fell flat, how misalignment with leadership signaled deeper issues, and what he’d do differently if given another shot. A candid, insightful look at failure as fuel for growth.

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About the Podcast

Why Did It Fail?
A Sales Podcast
Welcome to Why Did It Fail?, a series hosted by Cognism’s Sales Coach, Shivan Pillay. Each episode digs into the real stories behind deals that fell through, strategies that didn’t land and campaigns that missed the mark. Through honest conversations with sales leaders, founders, and operators, we unpack what went wrong and more importantly, what they learned from it. No fluff, just failures that made them better.