Episode 82

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26th Mar 2025

Defining Outbound: Scaling Sales as a Founder with Ilia Papas

This week on Redefining Outbound, Nat Ferrante talks with Ilia Papas, CEO and co-founder of Band, about building and scaling sales as a founder, especially when coming from an engineering background. Ilia shares how he built a B2B outbound motion from scratch, the lessons he carried over from scaling Blue Apron, and the creative strategies he’s using to drive growth at Band. From overcoming the fear of cold outreach to leveraging AI and data-driven sales tactics, this conversation is packed with insights for founders, sales professionals and anyone defining their approach to outbound.

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About the Podcast

Why Did It Fail?
A Sales Podcast
Welcome to Why Did It Fail?, a series hosted by Cognism’s Sales Coach, Shivan Pillay. Each episode digs into the real stories behind deals that fell through, strategies that didn’t land and campaigns that missed the mark. Through honest conversations with sales leaders, founders, and operators, we unpack what went wrong and more importantly, what they learned from it. No fluff, just failures that made them better.